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    • 3 posts
    February 14, 2015 9:02 PM CET

    Dear Developers




    With SBrick you had great idea, your advertisement of "playability" with SBrick were even better, but the reality is now quite bitter.
    Thanks to Sylvain CACHEUX I want to say the same as he. I can sign myself under each if his comments and complains!

    Think about future of this project which was really well taken and supported by many people.
    I guess you will not get many distributors of you product as long it is useless for android users, I would not sell it at all to others at this development stage!

    Please put the app in open source, others will do your job with fan, the product will gain functionality and defenitely will increase your sales and reseler numbers.

    Think about it before alternative options appear on the market.

    regards
    Marcin


    • 16 posts
    February 14, 2015 8:59 PM CET

    Mmh.... installed 0.60 on my Asus, good news is that discovery works nearly correctly (sometimes very long discovery, but can be aborted by hitting screen). I was able to discover and test 2 sbricks. Bad news: as soon as I try anything related to profiles, instant crash!

    • 25 posts
    February 14, 2015 6:20 PM CET

    Hello,

     

    Installed 0.0.60. app crashes when deleting the profile applied to a moc (to put another one). Jurgens excavator's profile makes application crashing.

    Loading of profiles list and selection of profile is very slow.

    Application does not save credentials for profile designer.

    New behavior about buttons: when taping to set on, displays is on, but lights are still off. When taping to set it off, displays goes off, and ligths flashes on and remains then off...

    Joysticks does not work at all.

    Still no slider that keeps position when releasing (which would allow you to remove your finger from screen, so practical when running trains - I tried "auto reset" option, but not working).

    When managing to have a profile running, sbrick stops responding after a variable time.

    Guys: instead of adding functions, debug the existing ones.

    I'm getting less and less patient. If at the end of this month (which will be 2 monthes since we have sbricks in our hands, largely enough to debug an app) we have no communication from developpers with a clear calendar with clear steps for each function debuging, I'll begin a true campaign to tell all what I'm thinking now of sbrick to all french LUGs I know (which makes hundreds of people). You are warned. I'm tired of waiting news, tired of an app still in alpha version with many bugs although reported since more than 1 month while IOS is working well. I just now think that vengit does not care at all of android users. No true communication, no true debuging of the existing functions, addition of functions also bugged, so consideration for people (backers) who allows you to realize your project. 350 € for 8 sbricks not usable (and I'm don't mention the "goodie" I was supposed to have). That's ENOUGH !

    As you know, when a bad reputation is done, it's very difficult to get it good. Think about it!

    If you have problems, tell them.

    If this is beyond your developing skills, then put it in open source!

    Sylca


    This post was edited by Sylvain CACHEUX at February 14, 2015 6:53 PM CET
    • 4 posts
    February 14, 2015 6:02 PM CET

    Hi

    did the update to the newest version from 0.26. App crash every time i want to add a profile. Went back to 0.26.

     

  • February 13, 2015 10:09 PM CET

    hello. have the new app 0.0.60 installed and tested. does not work on htc one m8. keeps crashing after approx 1 minute.

    app connects not even with sbrick.

    I am very very disappointed, have 2 sbrick bought for much money and it does not work. I am now since 2 weeks on tinkering with no visible success. it can not be. what we have paid for all the money for the stones we may also expect something in return. looking from my side of this is very bad advertising for all the superior sbrick to buy.
    it also does not use if the app a color update subjects in each release. The developer should focus on the function instead of always replace only the color.

    Sorry but this needed to be said now.

    • 21 posts
    February 13, 2015 5:48 PM CET

    [blockquote]Denis H said:

    Testing the Sbrick simple app v1.5

    Samsung Galaxy S3

    Android 4.3

    Now indeed the discovery is really fast, like 0.1 sec

    Connecting take about 2 seconds

    BUT, sliders don't work at all....i just can play with slider like 5 minutes, even left slider at max for about 15 or more seconds, and NO engine is moving. And occasionaly one engine moves about 1 sec (like a massive delay). PLEASE can you borrow a S3 and test, S3 is a popular model. This app and the other is still trash, sorry but i start to get a little angry with this purchase.

    [/blockquote]
    All the same.
    Also can't add profile from PROFILE DESIGNER. 

    • 41 posts
    February 13, 2015 5:17 PM CET

    Testing the Sbrick simple app v1.5

    Samsung Galaxy S3

    Android 4.3

    Now indeed the discovery is really fast, like 0.1 sec

    Connecting take about 2 seconds

    BUT, sliders don't work at all....i just can play with slider like 5 minutes, even left slider at max for about 15 or more seconds, and NO engine is moving. And occasionaly one engine moves about 1 sec (like a massive delay). PLEASE can you borrow a S3 and test, S3 is a popular model. This app and the other is still trash, sorry but i start to get a little angry with this purchase.


    This post was edited by Denis H at February 13, 2015 5:18 PM CET
    • 95 posts
    February 13, 2015 3:21 PM CET

    I do agree with Juerg Siegenthaler about the custom profiles and the login

     

  • February 13, 2015 12:40 PM CET
    And I forget... When i'm Login whit User and passord it must be possible to save the setings so that i the Next time Only press the Login Button and im loged in whitout entering user and password
    Android 5.0.1, HTC Sens 6.0
  • February 13, 2015 12:32 PM CET
    Can you please add an update button to mark the profile as updated, so in the android app the profile will shown as changed.
  • February 12, 2015 8:22 PM CET

    [blockquote]Frederic Ayrault said:

    I fogot this one but I think it is working with ios

    https://social.sbrick.com/videos/7730/96/sbrick-reset-profile

    I tried to change the auto reset without success...

     

    X

    [/blockquote]

    Got the Same problem, it seems it works only whit IOs... very sad

  • February 12, 2015 8:20 PM CET

    Me too....

    I was creating a lot of Profils, but even wenn i update a Profile whit a new function it will not update by downloading the Profile again. I can´t put the functions to the Brick. I mean in the Brick adujst there are no functions, can´t see them. And when i delete a Profile and then named the new one exactly the same as the first one it will not properly function in the App. So please SBrick Developer Team work harder .. And create an App and DP whit no errors!!!!!!

  • February 12, 2015 1:19 PM CET

    Dear developers,

    I was very, very patient for 2 months, tried every update but now I started to be very angry.

    I had have no android 4.3+ device in December, but for 1 month I have a tablet with kitkat 4.4. When I start the app it has blank screen, I can see only menus, can select menus, but the inner screen is still empty. The tablet can see the brick, but I can't do anything, because no feedback.

    The tablet is an intel x86 device with 1024x768 screen.

    Thanks

    • 95 posts
    February 12, 2015 12:02 PM CET

    I fogot this one but I think it is working with ios

    https://social.sbrick.com/videos/7730/96/sbrick-reset-profile

    I tried to change the auto reset without success...

     

    X

    • 25 posts
    February 12, 2015 10:04 AM CET

    Another control that is necessary is a slider with no return to 0 (when releasing finger, the slider stays where it is).

    Very usefull for train users.

    • 95 posts
    February 11, 2015 10:24 PM CET

    [blockquote]Tamás Fábián said:

    The new version is in the store, it indeed fixed the long (re)connection time problem, at least for me.

     

    With LG G3 phones it took sometimes MINUTES to connect in like 1 in ever 4 occasions.

    With my Sam. S4 with CM11 snapshot connect time is aroun 0.1 sec every time ;)

     

    Give it a spin folks!

     [/blockquote]

     

    SBrick Simple Control works fine. I have just noticed a invertion between slider 2 chanel C and slider 3 channel B

    There is another difference between this app and the "alpha" one, all ports spin the motors in the oposite way

    I hope this new app will help you to fix connection problems and we are going to have a new working version with new features (control several SBricks and 1 slider control can several channels)

     

    • 16 posts
    February 11, 2015 8:16 PM CET

    For some reason I missed the announcement of SBrick Control "lite"... Good news, it works great on my Asus memopad 7 ME572C!

    • 23 posts
    February 11, 2015 8:04 PM CET

    Now my profile is visible in the market. I downloaded it but that's when all kinds of things started to go wrong:

    * The profile doesn't shop up correctly: the joysticks buttons are white, the sliders and joysticks are placed too low. Below is a picture so you can see the difference between the correct iOS profile (top) and the incorrect android version (bottom)

    * One MOC can containt multiple SBricks, but I can controll only one. It doesn't matter which SBrcik I select in the MOC-edit page, I end up controlling the same SBrick every time.

    * The only button that works in the profile is the close button, everything else (including touching only the background) crashes the app.

    * When downloading the profile from the market, it never gives the message Download complete

    * When selecting an image for your MOC, it never gives the message Complete

    * Everytime I reopen the App, I have to login again, whereas the Ios app keeps you logged in

    I'm using Sony Z3 compact, android 4.4.4, PD in chrome, App v0.0.41

     


    This post was edited by Jurgen Krooshoop at February 11, 2015 8:24 PM CET
    • 5 posts
    February 10, 2015 6:25 PM CET

    Tamas,

    Version 1.5 works like a charm. Connecting is really fast. Sudden disconnects/loss of control happen sometimes, but the app will recover from them and reconnect really fast (0,1 to 1 sec)

    Martijn

     

    • 167 posts
    February 10, 2015 10:39 AM CET

    The new version is in the store, it indeed fixed the long (re)connection time problem, at least for me.

     

    With LG G3 phones it took sometimes MINUTES to connect in like 1 in ever 4 occasions.

    With my Sam. S4 with CM11 snapshot connect time is aroun 0.1 sec every time ;)

     

    Give it a spin folks!

     

    jean-christian rey: please test the latency, one of the fixes I've made might have fixed that too. If not, than that's a firmware - application - operating system incompatibility issue and will require further tweaking, even firmware modification.

    • 167 posts
    February 10, 2015 8:01 AM CET

    Thank you all for the feedback.

    I've found the problem that caused the slow connection. Basically Android can connect automatically, whenever a device becomes available. This means it probably has to try for a long time. The other method is to connect immediately, because we know the device is available. In the first case, the OS only scans "lazily", and misses most of the advertisement packets. In the seciond case it does much better job discovering devices quickly.

    Of course I've choosen the wrong method.

     

    The latency can also be caused by this, as a the connection parameters could also be set up to be "lazy". This is fine for a smart watch, but not for an SBrick. Latency can also be caused by recent firmware, as the new firmware is smarter, but slower. This will either be solved in the next release in a few hours, or I'll implement version detection and "quick drive" as we call it. That consumes less bandwidth and using it instead the old DRIVE command results in more stable connections and even slightly better range.

     


    This post was edited by Tamás Fábián at February 10, 2015 8:01 AM CET
  • February 10, 2015 12:44 AM CET

    tamas,

    thank you its working on lg-700

    but there is a latency,more than 3 second

    • 5 posts
    February 10, 2015 12:00 AM CET

    Tamas,

    First respons on the emergency app version 1.3:

    Works like a charm, no latency, no humming sound, no occurence of motors getting stuck or not gearing back to idle position, no need to reset app or brick. There are still some disconnects present (but much less as the full app), but the app will recover from that by reconnecting after a while (reconnection can however take 30+ seconds)

    Also reconnects nicely if power is cut temporarily from the Brick or the phonescreen is turned "off" for a moment

    In short, this is exactly what you would expect as minimum basic functionality of any usefull app.

    Tested on Xiaomi Mi2S Android 4.4.4 (Miui 6)

    Regards,

    Martijn Nab

     


    This post was edited by Martijn Nab at February 10, 2015 12:10 AM CET
    • 167 posts
    February 9, 2015 8:40 PM CET

    Hi everyone,

    I apologize for this unfortunate regression in the Android application.

    We're of course in the middle of resolving the issue for good, but this still won't help you what I think would be fast enogh.

    I've written a new, but fairly simple Android application. We used something similar during the development and testing of the electronics and firmware.

    It's more reliable exactly because of it's relative simplicity, this means no profile designer, and no versatile profiles, only a simple four slider controller.

    You can find it in the play store under com.vengit.blecontrol: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vengit.blecontrol , it's name is "SBrick Simple Control".

    There is a version under review that works around the firmware bug, please allow a few hours before it gets into the store. The most recent version is 1.3.

    Please read the app description.

    Please install & test.

    Any feedback will help the original (an partly already re-written) application to be better.


    This post was edited by Tamás Fábián at February 9, 2015 8:45 PM CET
  • February 9, 2015 3:36 AM CET

    hi

    i want to know ,there is an update for lg-700?(android)

    because its not functionnal again and i ask for myself if i will be change that for another one day ?alaways,that not reconize the Sbricks