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    • 6 posts
    July 23, 2016 2:22 AM CEST
    I have been trying to figure out how to use Profile Designer and Sbrick app (I think they are supposed to work together, each doing half of the job).  I have studied the guide at 
    and searched for answers and how-to guides elsewhere but am not finding answers for novices.
    A few critical confusions:
     
    In Profile Designer::
    What do the "Channel" fields do?
     
    The first Field says "You can define the control Channels here.  The channels can be selected in the sbrick app" ...
    - Do channels refer to the physical ports on the sbrick?
    - Obviously "Defining" and "Selecting" are 2 different things because one is done in the Profile Designer and the other is done in the Sbrick App.  Which is which?  What to the 2 words mean in this context?
    - What are valid entries for this field?
    - How does this field map to a specific Sbrick and a specific port that a device is plugged into?
     
    ​The second "Channel" field says the exact same thing in the tool tip!
    - ​This is a longer field - maybe it is a description?...
    - If it is a description - then how does it differ from "Name"... in other words, Where does this label show up?
    - If it is not a Description, then what are valid entries for this field?
     
    What are ​Points?​
    The description tool tip simply says that you can define them.
    - is this related to the Pulse Width Modulation of the port being controlled?
    - What are the units of measurement?
    - How do the Points influence a Motor?  a Light?  a Servo?
     
    ​Can I save Profiles ?
    Is there such a thing as a Profile "file"?
    How do I get a Profile onto my Sbrick controlling device/phone?
     
    In the SBrick App:
    - How do I assign a Profile to an Sbrick?
    (...or do I assign Sbricks to a profile?)
    - What is a "Creation"? (MOC?, Profile? )
    ​- On the Creation tab, it can show multiple profiles, but it doesn't show any Sbricks...Does that mean that I've missed a step?
    - Also, Sbricks and Creations are on different tabs in the application: does this mean they alternative approaches to doing the same thing?​
    - can you assign a "Creation" to an Sbrick?  or Sbricks to a creation?
    - The Creations have "Channel" selections; are these mapped to a Profile or an Sbrick?  (Or something else?)
    - Creations have media files, just like Profiles: Is there a layout Editor for the Creations?  What are these media files used for?
    - When I assign a second Profile to a Creation, only the first profile is displayed when I run the Creation;  am I missing a step?
    - When configuring a Creation, it requires tests with a connected Sbrick; will the Creation only work with that specific Sbrick in the future?
    - Is it intended that you build a new "Creation" for each MOC you make in order to use a given "Profile"?
     
    ​Using both Profile Designer and Sbrick App:
    - Is there an app to create or edit profiles locally, on my phone or tablet so that you only set up the controls in one app?
    - Are there any "How to" videos that walk you through the process - showing how it is supposed to work?
    - Is there a Wiki or other location where people can discuss back and forth about SBrick issues?
    (Considering that users can't reply to individual comments here, or search for answers)
     
    Any help would be greatly appreciated - I see that many people are using the Sbrick successfully - I'd like to be one of them!
    ​Thanks!
  • July 22, 2016 9:51 PM CEST

    [blockquote]Tamas Misik said:

    Hi Guys,

    A new version, with some minor changes (improved driver logs and some fixed bugs about the connections) 
    Android apk (4.0.2.4-d) -> https://goo.gl/MKsyRQ

    Don't
    forget, this is just a test version! 
    Please test it if the previous version did'nt work properly on your device.

    If you find any bugs, or if you have any problems with this version, please fill out this form: https://goo.gl/NFSLTT


    Thanks
    for your help.
    Tamas 

    [/blockquote]

    Hi Tamas,

    i have installed Android apk (4.0.2.4-d).
    Sorry, no change in the problems.

    • 6 posts
    July 22, 2016 7:00 PM CEST

    How do I update or reset an Sbrick?

    I bought 4 on the kickstarter.  

    One of mine has been updated a few months ago and Reports Hardware v4.0, Firmware 4.12 (it said Firmware v4.11 when I connected it a couple days ago.)   I think it works, but I've not figured out how the tool chain is supposed to work - that's a separate question.

     

    While thinking maybe something was wrong with it, I tried the other ones which were not updated as recently.  

    - They show a MAC address in the Sbrick app, but do not report any Hardware or Firmware values.  

    - They also do not respond to any of the test controls.  

    - If i touch the "Update firmware" button and wait about 30 seconds, the app reports that  "This SBrick has got the newest version of the firmware."

    - They also will not show up at all in the Sbrick Simple Control.

     

    Is there any way to un-brick these Sbricks?

    • 3 posts
    July 22, 2016 2:11 PM CEST

    @Tamas I have been able to get 7 x SBricks(4.12) to connect to a Samsung SM-T530/Android version 5.0.2 in the one profile :-)

    [blockquote]Tamas Misik said:

    Hi Guys,

    A new version, with some minor changes (improved driver logs and some fixed bugs about the connections) 
    Android apk (4.0.2.4-d) -> https://goo.gl/MKsyRQ

    Don't
    forget, this is just a test version! 
    Please test it if the previous version did'nt work properly on your device.

    If you find any bugs, or if you have any problems with this version, please fill out this form: https://goo.gl/NFSLTT


    Thanks
    for your help.
    Tamas 

    [/blockquote]

    • 164 posts
    July 22, 2016 1:57 PM CEST

    [blockquote]Adrian Wigg said:

    The SBRick Simple Control App available on android can revert v12 firmware -> v11??

    [blockquote]Tamas Misik said:

    @Jeremy

    After you downloaded the APK to your phone, you can instal it :) 
    About the downgrade to 11 firmware we will contact you soon.

    [/blockquote]

    [/blockquote]

    No, it doesn't work with the Simple Control.
    We have a special APK for the downgrade. I sent it to you in e-mail. Check your inbox! :)

    • 3 posts
    July 22, 2016 1:41 PM CEST

    @Tamas I tryed the new app tonight and could not get any SBricks to connect. I will try the new APK and see how that goes :-)

    • 3 posts
    July 22, 2016 1:38 PM CEST

    The SBRick Simple Control App available on android can revert v12 firmware -> v11??

    [blockquote]Tamas Misik said:

    @Jeremy

    After you downloaded the APK to your phone, you can instal it :) 
    About the downgrade to 11 firmware we will contact you soon.

    [/blockquote]

    • 164 posts
    July 22, 2016 1:20 PM CEST

    @Jeremy

    After you downloaded the APK to your phone, you can instal it :) 
    About the downgrade to 11 firmware we will contact you soon.

    update: check your inbox. I sent the APK to you in e-mail :)


    This post was edited by Tamas Misik at July 22, 2016 1:58 PM CEST
    • 164 posts
    July 22, 2016 1:14 PM CEST
    Hi Guys,

    A new version, with some minor changes (improved driver logs and some fixed bugs about the connections) 
    Android apk (4.0.2.4-d) -> https://goo.gl/MKsyRQ

    Don't
    forget, this is just a test version! 
    Please test it if the previous version did'nt work properly on your device.

    If you find any bugs, or if you have any problems with this version, please fill out this form: https://goo.gl/NFSLTT


    Thanks
    for your help.
    Tamas 
    • 6 posts
    July 21, 2016 2:45 AM CEST

    [blockquote]Tamas Misik said:

    Hi Guys,

    We will contact you about the reported bugs and connection problems very soon.

    I uploaded the APK, so you can download  the current and previous versions.
    APK for 2.0.2. verison: https://goo.gl/OnyM4x
    APK for 4.0.1. version: https://goo.gl/fMbds0


    Thanks,
    Tamas 

    [/blockquote]

     

    How does one use these APKs? Also, I need to roll back my firmware from 4.12 to 4.11 ASAP. How do I do that?

    • 2 posts
    July 20, 2016 7:16 PM CEST

    Hello
    I have connection problems after updating to v4.0 update 1 android application.
    The sbricks are disconnected, even with new creations and new profiles.
    I use a Samsung J2 with Android 5.1.1
    I hope you can solve quickly!
    Thanks in advance


    This post was edited by Ignacio Zamora at July 20, 2016 7:16 PM CEST
    • 5 posts
    July 20, 2016 6:05 PM CEST

    Thanks, the old verson works fine with both Sbricks, and there are very little connectivity issuse... too bad I can't use the sequences, but atleast it works.

  • July 20, 2016 2:40 PM CEST

    Thank you Tamas.

    Karl

    • 164 posts
    July 20, 2016 1:42 PM CEST

    Hi Guys,

    We will contact you about the reported bugs and connection problems very soon.

    I uploaded the APK, so you can download  the current and previous versions.
    APK for 2.0.2. verison: https://goo.gl/OnyM4x
    APK for 4.0.1. version: https://goo.gl/fMbds0


    Thanks,
    Tamas 

    • 5 posts
    July 20, 2016 4:00 AM CEST

    I tried downgrading the app, though the old version of the app didn't recognize the Sbricks with the new firmware, I wish there was a way to downgrade the firmware, as I didn't have the connectivity issues with the previous firmware. As sometimes it will connect, but most of the time it has issues connecting. My device is a LG ultimate 2, it's sort of a potato, and it costs roughly the price of the Sbrick, but it meets the requirements for the app. It has Android 4.4.2 and bluetooth 4. I hope this can be fixed, as I have a model that uses the sequence function, but will disconnect in the middle of the sequence. 

     

    I have 2 Sbircks one with 4.12 and 5.12 firmware both seem to have issues.


    This post was edited by Tommy Styrvoky at July 20, 2016 4:11 AM CEST
    • 99 posts
    July 20, 2016 2:10 AM CEST

    [blockquote]Karl Fensterstock said:

    Can you give me an Android device name where the SBrick App 100% works? I would like to buy it.

    [/blockquote]

    The SBrick works perfectly with my Sony Xperia M4. I have purchased it last year cause the Sony devices seemed to work fine for us, and I was right to do so. All the problems I have experienced last year are gone with the new app.

    The new app just won't install on my old Galaxy Note Tablet (Kit Kat, no Lollipop available for it).

    I've been reading all the complaints on this board for more than one year now. Android is not a stable, standard system, and all the manufacturers have a different implementation. The users who never could use the SBrick seem to have a device which just cannot work correctly with the Sbrick.

    The problem doesn't come from the app itself: the problem is Android and the Android devices. Ironically, it seems that some Nexus devices (more or less Google products!) are not fully compatible : who manufactures them ? What are their specifications ?

    The other option is to switch to Apple, but from a personal standpoint, it's something I refuse to do.


    This post was edited by Marc Jaouen at July 20, 2016 2:12 AM CEST
    • 310 posts
    July 19, 2016 5:57 PM CEST

    [blockquote]M H said:

    Hi, 

    can I force update from simple controller the firmware on my S-brick to version 4.11, in case that I have current version of the app?

    Thank you,

    MH

    [/blockquote]

    Hello! 

    You can update your SBricks firmware with the Android application, the simple control is doesn't necessary. 

    Sometimes it takes more than once to update it, till it really finished. So if firstly it didn't succeded please try again. :) 

    If it doesen't work please contact us again. 

    Regards, 

    Balint Mezei
    SBrick Team 

  • M H
    • 1 posts
    July 19, 2016 3:18 PM CEST

    Hi, 

    can I force update from simple controller the firmware on my S-brick to version 4.11, in case that I have current version of the app?

    Thank you,

    MH


    This post was edited by M H at July 19, 2016 3:29 PM CEST
    • 6 posts
    July 18, 2016 8:15 AM CEST
    Firmware 4.12 effectively bricked the first Sbrick to update to it, even though the Android app (latest version) deemed the update a success. The app usually can't connect to it at all now, and properly configured profiles never connect.

    Three other SBricks still on 4.11 still work, though with issues that appear to reside in the latest Andoid app (v.4.0, update 1), and not in the firmware.

    Quick, how do I roll this inoperative SBrick back to an earlier firmware? I need it for an upcoming show!
    This post was edited by Jeremy McCreary at July 18, 2016 8:16 AM CEST
    • 7 posts
    July 17, 2016 8:20 PM CEST

     

     

    Hello SBrick team SBrick- users,
    The SBrick app has still not managed to produce a consistent error-free connection between the SBrick and the smartphone / tablet!
    I have applied from the beginning of SBrick all app versions even. Improvements and changes to the app and the firmware have been made repeatedly. The most important thing but a Permanent connection and error free operation was functioning not yet been achieved! In the SBrick forum I from the outset pursued write many users repeatedly by these problems.
    The idea of ​​SBrick I find it good, but I believe that the SBrick with the App-Control as permanent has no future.!
    1. If you build a Lego-art model with 2000-3000 parts then you want to also use the power function. The desire is quickly lost if ever the connection is interrupted and the control on the smartphone hangs or is not responding. With the Lego IR system a 100% function is safe.
    2. If in a model such as 42009 or 8043 for six to eight engines and lights it is fitted difficult heading this liquid with the SBrick app. On the smartphone / tablet surface must constantly look to the right person to operate controller. Quick one here has slipped a finger and one must reorient repeatedly. When Lego IR system operation by the control knobs in the fingers is much easier and safer!
    3. In my opinion, the SBrick team should put on a new transmitter and control system with Bluetooth. Maybe a plug-in system where controller with buttons, push buttons and joysticks can be put together like a small control panel. compiled Depending on the user's request. Here SBrick could connect to Bluetooth use as before. With the PC all the controls are to be programmed. All users have the same control system and technology. The misery with SBrick app would have an end.
    If SBrick until 2017 at no usable result is for users I'll sell my SBrick and reuse all models with the Lego IR system. It works 100% and easier on the nerves.
    Klaus  from Germany

     

     

    Ab hier noch einmal in Deutsch:

    Hallo SBrick-Team, SBrick- Nutzer,
    Die SBrick App hat es bis heute nicht geschafft eine beständige fehlerfreie Verbindung zwischen dem SBrick und dem Smartphone/Tablett herzustellen!
    Ich habe von Beginn des SBrick alle App-Versionen selbst angewendet. Es wurden immer wieder Verbesserungen und Veränderungen von der App und der Firmware vorgenommen. Das Wichtigste aber das eine Dauerhafte Verbindung und Fehlerfreie Bedienung funktioniert wurde bis heute nicht erreicht! In dem SBrick-Forum das ich von Anfang verfolge schreiben viele Nutzer immer wieder von diesen Problemen.
    Die Idee des SBrick finde ich schon gut, aber ich glaube das sich der SBrick mit der App-Steuerung  auf Dauer so keine Zukunft hat.!
    1. Wenn Sie ein Lego-Technik Modell mit 2000-3000 Teilen bauen dann möchten Sie auch die Power-Funktion verwenden. Die Lust geht schnell verloren wenn ständig die Verbindung unterbrochen wird und der Regler am Smartphone hängt oder nicht reagiert. Mit dem Lego IR-System ist eine 100% Funktion sicher.
    2. Werden in ein Modell wie 42009 oder 8043 sechs bis acht Motoren und Lichter verbaut wird es schwierig dies mit der SBrick-App flüssig zusteuern. Auf der Smartphone/Tablett Oberfläche muß man ständig schauen um den Richtigen Regler zu bedienen. Schnell ist man hier mit dem Finger verrutscht und man muß sich immer wieder neu orientieren. Beim Lego IR-System ist die Bedienung durch die Regelknöpfe in den Fingern viel einfacher und sicherer!
    3. Meiner Meinung nach sollte das SBrick-Team auf ein neues Sender-und Regelsystem mit Bluetooth setzen. Vielleicht ein Stecksystem wo Regler mit Knöpfen, Drucktasten und Joysticks zusammengesteckt werden können wie ein kleines Steuerpult. Je nach Wunsch des Nutzers zusammengestellt. Hier könnte SBrick eine Verbindung mit Bluetooth verwenden wie bisher. Mit dem PC sollen alle Steuerelemente zu programmieren sein. Alle Nutzer hätten das gleiche Steuersystem und Technik. Das Elend mit der SBrick-App hätte ein Ende.
    Wenn SBrick bis 2017 zu keinem brauchbarem Ergebnis kommt für die Nutzer werde ich meine SBrick verkaufen und wieder alle Modelle mit dem Lego IR-System verwenden. Es funktioniert 100% und schont die Nerven.
    Klaus

    • 7 posts
    July 16, 2016 7:59 PM CEST

    Hello Balint,   ZOPO ZP590 MTK6582 Quad Core 4,5'' Dual SIM 4GB Android 4.4 Smartphone Handy 3G   

    The connection to Sbrick breaks after a short time or the app will hang . The latest update firmware and has not brought remedy .

    greetings from Germany

    Klaus

    [blockquote]Balint Mezei said:

    [blockquote]klaus eicher said:

    Hello , also the new update for Sbrick app and the new firmware for the Sbrick is no improvement ! The app is constantly stuck , and the connection is interrupted . My request to the supervisor you Sbrick in a list, call the smartphone models on which the application works 100 % !! Then everyone can get a model , if he wants the works .

    [/blockquote]


    Hello Klaus! 

    We are working on solving this device issue, now we collect all the android devices which has any problem, and soon we will fix the problem. 

    May i ask what kind of phone do you use, with which you have problems? 

    [/blockquote]

  • July 16, 2016 7:33 PM CEST

    Hallo Balint Mezei,

    can you please tell me why my two SBricks on the tablet other addresses than on the smart phone? On both devices (tablet and smart phone) which is SBrick installiert v4.0 update 1. On the two SBricks firmware 4.11 installed (where can I find 4:12?). On UPDATE FIRMWARE is about 3% canceled and then the message comes (when updating an error occurred). Here again a list of my equipment

    My Smartphon is:

    SAMSUNG Galaxy S4 GT-I9515

    Android Version 5.0.1

    My Tabet is:

    MEDION LIFETAB S8312

    Android Version 4.4.2

    On both Android devices is SBrick app version is v4.0 Update 1 installed.

    On the two SBricks is firmware 4.11 installed

    The two SBricks have since Dec.2014 (Kickstarter project) addresses

    00:07:80:2E:3F:13 and 00:07:80:2E:27:7C

     

    Best regards

    Karl

     

    PS: Can you give me an Android device name where the SBrick App 100% works?

    I would like to buy it.

     


    This post was edited by Karl Fensterstock at July 16, 2016 7:36 PM CEST
    • 310 posts
    July 16, 2016 4:26 PM CEST

    [blockquote]klaus eicher said:

    Hello , also the new update for Sbrick app and the new firmware for the Sbrick is no improvement ! The app is constantly stuck , and the connection is interrupted . My request to the supervisor you Sbrick in a list, call the smartphone models on which the application works 100 % !! Then everyone can get a model , if he wants the works .

    [/blockquote]


    Hello Klaus! 

    We are working on solving this device issue, now we collect all the android devices which has any problem, and soon we will fix the problem. 

    May i ask what kind of phone do you use, with which you have problems? 

    • 7 posts
    July 16, 2016 1:54 PM CEST

    Hello , also the new update for Sbrick app and the new firmware for the Sbrick is no improvement ! The app is constantly stuck , and the connection is interrupted . My request to the supervisor you Sbrick in a list, call the smartphone models on which the application works 100 % !! Then everyone can get a model , if he wants the works .

  • July 15, 2016 11:02 PM CEST

    I experienced some connection problem after updating to v4.0 Update 1 of the adroid app. At first I was able to update the firmware to 4.12. The Sbrick would sometimes work in the test-mode, however when I tried to to control my MOCs through the My creations control interface I didn't get past the disconnected message.
    This is what I did to get it sort of resolved. I noticed that the identity of my Sbrick had changed but that my control schemes still had the old identity. I assume this is the reason why I wasn't able to connect when using the control schemes. So I deleted the old identities and reassigned the functions of my control schemes to the new Sbrick identity. Afterwards I was able to get the control interfaces to connect. However as before disconnects continue to happen far too often for comfort.

    If anyone knows of a way to improve stability of the connection between the app and the Sbrick I would really like to know. 

    Just for reference, I am using a Hauwei G620S with Android 4.4.4 which has Bluetooth 4.0 with BLE and A2DP. 

    Thanks in advance