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    • 6 posts
    April 11, 2015 1:30 PM CEST

    App for Android 4.0

    I have an sBrick taht I use with my iPad mini and it works fine.

    However my son has a smartphone (Sony Xperia P) with android 4.0  and Sony announced that it will not be possible for this model to upgrade to further versions of android. That means that the sBrick android app requiring android 4.3 cannt be used.

    Thus my question:

    is there an "old" version of sBrick working with android 4.0?

     

    Thans and best regards

    • 10 posts
    April 11, 2015 10:22 AM CEST

    Hello, any good news from sbrick team?

    • 21 posts
    April 10, 2015 12:38 PM CEST

    About that two bricks do not work at the same time, I know.
    But I somehow missed, that it is impossible to connect two ports on one function (such as port A and B - Acceleration 1).
    Is that so?

    • 18 posts
    April 10, 2015 11:47 AM CEST
    Thank you, we'll change it!

     

    [blockquote]Fernando Correia said:

    I'd suggest it should blink a bit longer, once LED ID is activated.

    Doesn't need to be on/off but a bit longer to look for, if you have several SBricks around, would be convenient. ;)

    [/blockquote]

    • 57 posts
    April 10, 2015 10:14 AM CEST

    I'd suggest it should blink a bit longer, once LED ID is activated.

    Doesn't need to be on/off but a bit longer to look for, if you have several SBricks around, would be convenient. ;)


    This post was edited by Fernando Correia at April 10, 2015 10:14 AM CEST
    • 18 posts
    April 9, 2015 10:06 AM CEST

    [blockquote]Fernando Correia said:

    Finaly managed to upgrade my SBricks firmware via OTA.

    Don't whether it happened because fw v4.2 was finally made available in the right place or because I gave it sometime between setting my phone BT on and off.

     

    Then I found also a small bug or a feature yet to update.

    LED ID function seem to have been changed in the latest fw version. Now it just blinks for a couple seconds and then LED remains on.

    Hence the the app behaviour which alternates with on and off commands is not adequate anymore. The messages on screen are misleading and it works only every two touch actions. :)

    Also can't find where to look for SBrick info like HW and FW versions, but guess this is not yet implemented into Android app version.

     

    Apart from this, just looking for App multi SBrick support. There is a LEGO event approaching fast. :D

    [/blockquote]

    Yes, the led behaviour was changed. No it's allways lighting. 

    We'll check the on/off and message dialogs problems.

    Thank you for your feedback.

    • 57 posts
    April 9, 2015 12:37 AM CEST

    Finaly managed to upgrade my SBricks firmware via OTA.

    Don't know whether it happened because fw v4.2 was finally made available in the right place or because I gave it sometime between setting my phone BT on and off.

     

    Then I found also a small bug or a feature yet to update.

    LED ID function seems to have been changed in the latest fw version. Now it just blinks for a couple seconds and then LED remains on.

    Hence the the app behaviour which alternates with on and off commands is not adequate anymore. The messages on screen are misleading and it works only every two touch actions. :)

    Also can't find where to look for SBrick info like HW and FW versions, but guess this is not yet implemented into Android app version.

     

    Apart from this, just looking for App multi SBrick support. There is a LEGO event approaching fast. :D


    This post was edited by Fernando Correia at April 9, 2015 10:19 AM CEST
    • 18 posts
    April 8, 2015 8:52 PM CEST

    We are working on the two or more bricks support and the OTA update errors above.

    The new version expected to be released on this weekend.


    This post was edited by Imre Kiss at April 8, 2015 9:36 PM CEST
    • 21 posts
    April 8, 2015 2:51 PM CEST

    Can't update second sbrick - "check your internet connection". Im write from this connection :).
    Install/reinstall.
    I will look for another connection.

    upd
    Found a new connection. Began repeating the process updates. Many times. Written above (Denis H) no help. :(
    I will try with a third sbrick.

    With the third brick - all the same :(.


    This post was edited by Maxim Baybakov at April 8, 2015 5:48 PM CEST
  • April 7, 2015 8:59 PM CEST

    Has anyone encountered an issue with the OTA update failing with the error "check your internet connection"?
    I don't know what this is about since my internet connection is fine.

    This error occurs on both a nexus 7 (stock android 5.0.2) and a oneplus one (cyanogenmod 12 nightlies, based on android 5.0.2)

     

    EDIT: My collegue just used his iPhone to update my sbrick.
    To my relief this worked on the first try, unfortunately that's all the good news there is.

    Despite the OTA performed by the iOS app the android app still tells me I need to update the firmware.
    I've tried restarting the app, restarting the sbrick, reinstalling the app and restarting bluetooth but still the android app keeps telling me to update the firmware, which continues to fail with the same nonsensical error.

    All in all, the only thing that actually works in this new version is the identification led, not even the port tester works anymore. (which was laggy but at least it worked somewhat in 0.8)

     

    EDIT2: Also tested on a nexus 5 running android 5.1, and another nexus 5 running android 4.4.4, all give the same error.


    This post was edited by Sander Verkuijlen at April 8, 2015 10:42 AM CEST
  • April 7, 2015 5:13 PM CEST

    Madness, after X attempts, the OTA has worked in a brick!

    In the second no change.

    The app version you should reset to V.0.1 again. :-(

    • 95 posts
    April 7, 2015 4:10 PM CEST

    [blockquote]Karl Fensterstock said:

    Hi Frederic, I have of course also tested only with a brick.
    Hundred times, thousand times ??? ;-)

    [/blockquote]

    aound ten

  • April 7, 2015 3:55 PM CEST

    Hi Frederic, I have of course also tested only with a brick.
    Hundred times, thousand times ??? ;-)

    • 95 posts
    April 7, 2015 3:38 PM CEST

    [blockquote]Karl Fensterstock said:

    I have experimented around a bit. I think there's something wrong with the nich Kopplungskode.

    Furthermore, I definitely still the Frimware 4.0 because the LED turn on when not illuminated.

     [/blockquote]

     

    I think you should tried with only one sbrick powered.

    I have 5 sbricks. One was upgraded after the first download

    three needs to download a second time. And I do not remember exactly how many time I had to upgrade the last one...

     

  • April 7, 2015 1:33 PM CEST

    I have experimented around a bit. I think there's something wrong with the nich Kopplungskode.

    Furthermore, I definitely still the Frimware 4.0 because the LED turn on when not illuminated.

     

     

     

     

    • 10 posts
    April 7, 2015 7:46 AM CEST

    i found 1 thing, when using the sbrick app with any data connections(wifi / 4g), the app is very unstable and look at my data transfer record, the app is using my data in and out.

    and i turn off all the data connections (wifi / 4g), the app is more stable.

    any idea with this?

    thanks

  • April 6, 2015 7:10 PM CEST

    @ Frederic

    Thank you for the information.

    OK, I have 4.0
    How do I get 4.2 ???

    • 95 posts
    April 6, 2015 6:59 PM CEST

    [blockquote]Karl Fensterstock said:

    Is there a way to check which firmware version is installed on my Bricks?

    [/blockquote]

    I this when the sbrick is powered with 4.0 firmware the status led id off

    and it is on when the sbrick is running 4.2

     

    • 7 posts
    April 6, 2015 4:56 PM CEST

    [blockquote]Karl Fensterstock said:

    Is there a way to check which firmware version is installed on my Bricks?

    [/blockquote]

    ...in firmware 4.1 iOS returned northing (known bug). don't know if 4.1 returns any information when checking 'manage bricks' on android.

    ...in firmware 4.2 iOS still returns nothing and crashes. android only reports the request to update but no firmware version. this request returns in a endless loop.

     

    acording to the wiki documentation:

    Each SBrick has a unique screen which will list the following information for the SBrick selected.

        SBrick name
        Icon (identicon)
        Firmware version
        Power supply voltage
        Temperature
        When the SBrick was registered
        Time spent online (minutes/hours/days)
        Counter showing the number of commands the received so far
        Security status (public/secured, users have been granted access)
        Firmware version
        Rename button, allowing you to change the SBrick’s name
        Lighting up or down the Identify LED.
        Port testing button, allowing you to jump to the Port Testing screen

     

    regards

    Michael


    This post was edited by Michael H. at April 6, 2015 5:09 PM CEST
  • April 6, 2015 4:48 PM CEST
    Is there a way to check which firmware version is installed on my Bricks?
    • 57 posts
    April 6, 2015 3:52 PM CEST

    Any official comment about the status where we came?

    Did you found the root cause?

    I know modern software development means little testing and let the end users find the bugs, but I wonder how can we let escape a bug like this... Don't take me wrong I'm still very supportive to this project. :)

    • 13 posts
    April 6, 2015 8:31 AM CEST
    @Norman C., @Michael H.
    Exactly!
    I think vengit was going to soon on the Android market. And for some reason, I will never buy an iOS device. That's why I bought an sbrick which also should work with Android.
    • 7 posts
    April 6, 2015 6:36 AM CEST

    Hi, I upgraded to 1.0b and facing the same issue on my Nexus 7 (2013) Android KitKat 4.4.4. Endless request for firmware updates makes it impossible to use the sbrick any longer it is just a lopp-until-death trap :( Even more worth is the fact, that I can not use my sbricks with an iPhone  any longer because the iOS app crashes when starting a new created or old profile. I am sorry to say, that the sbrick is the worst sh... I ever spend my money for. We are waiting since ages to get a working android app. But what we get are buggy and non working alphas. I'm tired of waiting, angry about my optimistically founding at kickstarter and will sell the trash on eBay. 

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    • 24 posts
    April 5, 2015 10:29 PM CEST

    Erik,

    Vengit knew what Android phones were like before they ever offered an Android app so to say that it is the phone manufacturers problem is nonsensical.  However, if they DIDN'T know about Android phones then they are so naive as to be unbelievable and not fit to be running any sort of business.  Do you really think that the phone manufacturers got together to make all the variations of Android just to mess up the Sbrick?  Of course not and Vengit knew what an Android app entailed before they ever offered it.  They have just not got sufficient skilled developers to deliver what they promised.

    Of course the problems from the iOS side have been much less because that is what the Sbrick was designed to work with.  In my opinion Vengit offered an Android without thinking what it entailed just to ensure that there were sufficient people signing up so that they could reach their funding target.  With their target being exceeded by only approximately 30% I would suggest that without the Android sign-up they would have failed to reach their target and the Sbrick might never have happened.

    As to your legal action comment, if you read it again you will see that I specifically excluded any action by Kickstarter members, myself included.  However, when the project goes live any later purchaser may have no knowledge that this was originally financed by a Kickstarter subscription.  They have just bought a product that was specified to work with any Android device from version 4.3 on.  This is what they are entitled to receive.

    "Be patient, it'll work very soon." Having gone through every version where this was promised I am beginning to doubt it, unless your definition of "very soon" is in the next year,

    Regards, 

    Norman


    This post was edited by Norman Chalcraft at April 5, 2015 10:35 PM CEST
    • 4 posts
    April 5, 2015 9:55 PM CEST

    Hallo Norman,

    I find your post a bit on the harsch side.

    the main problem is not with the app disigners from Vengit but with the android phone manufacturers who ALL want to implement their own apps, programms, preverences, rules and in some cases even their own app store.

    You never hear this kind of crap from the IOS platform so where do you think the problem lays? with Vengit? Don't think so! It's every android phone manufacturer making sure that only their shit works without problems.

    And about going into the realm of legal actions against a kickstarter project?? That's really funny. Kickstarter projects are about giving someone a fair chance to realise their ideas. If the idea doesn't work, to bad!! this one does seem to work howevever and the guys working on it invest alot of time to make it work for all the idiotic android spinnoffs from every phone manufacturor as well. Be patient, it'll work very soon.

    Regards, E.